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'll subtly be advocating on the president's agenda. >> karl rove, we see the national rifle association. >> if you say we should keep the mentally ill and criminals from getting guns, yes. but we're talking about in this instance, having a registry if a grandfather wants to give a treasured shotgun to his grandson or granddaughter, he has to register with the government to give that gun to his grandchildren. in addition, senator schumer insists on keeping a registry of guns. the federal government keeping a national registry of gun sales and gun purchases and gun owners. >> but if you don't have records, how does the background check make a difference? >> it does make a difference. right now, i can go into a gun store in texas to purchase a weapon, i go through a background check, they have to ascertain that i don't have a criminal background. and then, i can purchase a gun. why is it's different than that is politics. there could be a lot of mutual agreement found on closing some of these so-called gun show loopholes. we could probably get agreement on a widespread basis of peope sayin
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